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Attention: Graphic Design Folks!
wyldkyss, birdofparadox, kothoga, sxyblkmn, everraven, kirkdaniel, theone01, and anyone else I may have excluded:

You are all graphic designers at various levels of expertise and education: students, professionals, and hobbists.

I am self-taught, so I have developed several methods that are not industry standard. Nor have I done any print media to have learned what standard IS. All my experience is web-based. I often wonder if I create more work for myself because I'm unconsciously doing something the hard way.

When I throw a webpage together, I use only Photoshop 7.0 (sometimes I save out through Image Ready for draft presentations, but really the only software I design in is Photoshop). I've heard some of you mention Adobe InDesign and various versions of Quark.

So, here's my question. What design software do you use? Do you build pages with more traditional design and publishing software? Is there a preferred software for print versus web media?

Also, have you found any softwar that is comparable to Adobe CS2 that is worthy of looking at?

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dreamsofxion From: dreamsofxion Date: July 19th, 2006 02:30 pm (UTC) (link)
I've used Pagemaker and InDesign.
Personally, I prefer InDesign as it fits more to the Adobe-standard than the older Pagemaker did...plus, AFAIK Pagemaker isn't developed anymore.

Additonally, most print houses that I've dealt with in recent past have all been using InDesign as well...
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: July 19th, 2006 02:33 pm (UTC) (link)
What do you like about InDesign that you can't do with photoshop? Objects?
dreamsofxion From: dreamsofxion Date: July 19th, 2006 02:55 pm (UTC) (link)
Dynamically shaped text boxes.
Text layers.
A lot more fine-grained control over typographic options.
dreamsofxion From: dreamsofxion Date: July 19th, 2006 03:05 pm (UTC) (link)
....oooh...and multi-page support...and the Document Template setup where you can set page #0 to have a particular layout and have it applied as a non-editable background to all your other pages...or all your even or odd pages.
Makes keeping a consistant look easier and prevents you from accidentally selecting and screwing up something in a border design that you spend hours on.
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: July 19th, 2006 03:25 pm (UTC) (link)
Great information, thank you!
kothoga From: kothoga Date: July 19th, 2006 03:49 pm (UTC) (link)
All of my web work is designed in Photoshop and put together in Dreamweaver. That's pretty much how I learned to do it at the first company I worked for, and that obviously stuck.

I haven't done a lot of print work, but in school I learned how to use QuarkXpress which is along the same lines as Illustrator. I don't really know anything about the other programs.

For an ad for work that I had to do for a magazine, they wanted it as a PDF. The basics of the ad were already created in a high-res Photoshop file by th emajor graphics guy here, and I edited that to what was needed for the magazine and saved it as a PDF. You can see it this weekend cause I'm very happy that I finally got copies of the magazine :)
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: July 19th, 2006 04:28 pm (UTC) (link)
In Illustrator you can draw vector based graphics. I didn't think you could do that with Quark. I've worked with Quark a little, but moreso just to pull content from it when I was moving it to the web-version of the magazine.

I'd love to see more of your work. :)
kothoga From: kothoga Date: July 19th, 2006 04:30 pm (UTC) (link)
As far as web stuff goes, there's not a lot of it left. Most of my work was done when I was at a company in New Orleans that closed after Katrina. I've only found two of my sites that are still active.
wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: July 19th, 2006 06:09 pm (UTC) (link)
I make most images in Photoshop for webpages, though sometimes I use Illustrator too for vector work.

I put webpages together with Dreamweaver.

As for print layouts, Illustrator can do a page but it's pretty limited and can only do one page per file (annoying!). Quark was the old standard, but I'm starting to really prefer Adobe's In Design. They're cross-compatible, but InDesign has a layout more like Photoshop (which I'm used to) and it's WAY cheaper if you buy it :)
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: July 19th, 2006 08:03 pm (UTC) (link)
Several of you have said that you use DreamWeaver to build your sites once you've finished the graphic design. Is it that you just like the environment and tag completion or do you rely on the WYSIWYG editor?

I build my webpages with Visual Slick Edit, which is essentially just a code editor that you use to write from scratch but has some useful tools.

And I think I might have a proposition for you...
wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: July 19th, 2006 09:03 pm (UTC) (link)
I go back and forth with DW. You can do straight code, poke at the WYSIWYG, and then back again - so much faster than uploading, looking at the page, opening the code and editing, uploading again, etc. I understand DW helps with CSS too but I havent' played with that.
sxyblkmn From: sxyblkmn Date: July 19th, 2006 06:57 pm (UTC) (link)
i mostly stick with only doing photo work but whenever the design guys have to design a page for the jfp they use a combo of photoshop and indesign
gigafive From: gigafive Date: July 27th, 2006 03:25 am (UTC) (link)
About 90-95 percent of newspapers use Quark, though some are moving toward InDesign. It's cheaper and compatible with other Adobe products.
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