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			12:20 pm October 17th, 2006

lost_angel


	No New TV
	People keep recommending new television shows to me. This season Heroes is the most frequent. Last year it was Lost and before that 24 and Alias. I don't want to watch any more television. I already watch too much. If any show that you recommend is that good, then one of my many DVD-collecting friends will likely buy it and gladly lend it to me. Plus, I have been disappointed with some of the intentional cliff-hanger shows like 24 that sacrifice character development and plot validity for artifical gasp-factor which succeeds only in pressing my "OMG, that's lame" button. I still want to see Lost but I refuse to watch it until the entire series has concluded. The shows that really appeal to me are brutally cathartic yet lush with detailed, dynamic characters and ironic, tragic humor. I'll go out of my way for shows like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly. However, the risk of cancellation and the resulting disappointment and anger have made me wary to try any new show before it enters its second season. Before the creation of the TV DVD market, this would have been impossible, so I'm not taking it for granted. I'm taking advantage of it by being more selective with my time. That being said, one of the shows that caught my curiosity was a short-lived HBO series called Carnivale'. It was cancelled after only two half-seasons. I was unable to watch it since we didn't/don't have HBO. The cast as well as the concept had me intrigued (yay for Nick Stahl and Clancy Brown). Have any of you seen this show? Is it worth watching even though it is dead? Tags: television Current Location: dining room, my house, Water Valley, MS mood: hungry and restless music: Jimmy's music (right now it's some obscure Tom Petty songs)

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			Thread started by Strange Bird

	From: birdofparadox	Date: October 17th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC)		(link)

I understand the disappointment angle. I hope you'll get around to watching Heroes once it's out on DVD. It's so good, I've had to retract my original "You can't make me watch any more TV, I already have three conflicting shows on Thursdays," statement to Matthew.

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	From: alcamar	Date: October 17th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC)		(link)

I'm not really trying to press people to watch the show, but I am really interested in how it's developing, and well the general premise of the show.

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	From: birdofparadox	Date: October 17th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)		(link)

I've been flailing and/or squeeful at the end of each ep. thus far.

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			Comment by 野生キス Ain't no party like a permanent party.

	From: wyldkyss	Date: October 17th, 2006 05:58 pm (UTC)		(link)

I've seen the boxes for Carnivale at Blockbuster, and I want to see it just because of that... I've been told good things about it.

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			Comment by EverRaven

	From: everraven	Date: October 17th, 2006 07:13 pm (UTC)		(link)

Maxus munched this series down like candy corn just a few weeks ago. Since he got Neflicks, he's been able to get a whole series to watch at work.

He was very suportive of this, and enjoyed it - but he also stated that it was cancelled without the opportunity to end. He mentioned season ending - which was series ending - cliffhangers.

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			Comment by Pat!

	From: sxyblkmn	Date: October 17th, 2006 07:30 pm (UTC)		(link)

However, the risk of cancellation and the resulting disappointment and anger have made me wary to try any new show before it enters its second season.

y'know, i've started to get that way too

but if you ever what to get into "heroes" before the dvd set comes out go here

(and don't forget the first rule of fight club) ;)

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			Thread started by Yert

	From: havoknkaos	Date: October 18th, 2006 01:32 am (UTC)		(link)

another show (as if you didn't have enough) you might like is Jericho. It's our perfect OMG-the-nukes-fell-on-us! scenario, set in the present day west Kansas town of Jericho... it's interested, but I don't enjoy drama much, so outside of my usual CSI/NCIS fix, I don't watch much.

Except Boston Legal - Spader, Shatner, and Bergen doing law, with political correctness thrown to the wind. I don't think Shatner could get a role so true to himself. :D

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	From: lost_angel	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:18 pm (UTC)		(link)

Jericho - at first I thought you were referring to the short-lived J. Michael Straczynski show called Jeremiah.

haabda has recommended Jeremiah to me.

Jericho sounds interesting. I'm a bit of a masochistic sucker for post-apocalyptic drama. It makes me depressed, but I love the psychology of characters trying to survive without the cushion of society. It makes me wonder what I would do if I had to rebuild society from scratch.

I won't be picking up Jericho this season, but if it survives, I may eventually borrow it from someone. Or Netflix it. What station carries it?

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	From: havoknkaos	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:20 pm (UTC)		(link)

CBS, but I get 90% of my "TV" from www.tvrss.net :D

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	From: lost_angel	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:34 pm (UTC)		(link)

Bleh, TVRSS's FAQ is empty, so I'll just ask you.

Do you get to keep the shows once they've been sent to you? If you don't check your RSS every day, do you miss your change for them?

The downfall for me is that I don't want to spend any more time in front of the computer than I have to. When I'm in front of the TV (unless it's Battlestar!), I usually have something else that I'm doing, like laundry or crafting.

However, as soon as the new 20-port switch comes in, I'll be able to set up my office properly which has the spare bed in it along with my art supplies and a door to the laundry room, which will multi-tasking much easier.

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	From: havoknkaos	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:38 pm (UTC)		(link)

I actually didn't start using the RSS feeds (they customize based on your search parameters) until yesterday. Prior to that, I simply clicked on "Shows", pick my title of interest, and there it lists the available torrents. They go back about 6 months, so you've got a couple of weeks to catch up, usually; about half of the torrents are redirected from mininova.org anyways, but it's a lot easier to find them with tvrss.

utorrent supports RSS feeds, but you still have to select the download from the feed list for it to start downloading.

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			Thread started by The Fuzzy One

	From: mandis13	Date: October 18th, 2006 04:07 am (UTC)		(link)

I am using our Netflix account to get solely TV series that I have missed or skipped. I started with many of the HBO series I didn't have time to watch in the past, and one was the aforementioned Carnivale.

Let me start here, the ending, while not a TOTAL cliffhanger, is a dark ending because of the series's cancellation.

Also, this show is a total mind-phuck. Be fore-warned.

These two things being said, I fookin' LOVED this series. The acting was universally awesome, the plot massively intricate, the characters so tragically flawed and human, and the series's final episode is one of my favorite episodes of television, EVER. Clancy Brown 4 life!

4-of-5 stars, and only 4 because of its short-lived nature. Definately worth some Netflix love.

Currently I am watching Deadwood (on season 2), and am loving it. I loves me some westerns, tho. :)

Any other shows you interested in? If I haven't watched them, I will be soon. :)

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	From: lost_angel	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:31 pm (UTC)		(link)

Carnivale had me interested with its first advertisement I saw several years ago. I've been contemplating signing up for Netflix again because Water Valley has very little selection in terms of movie rentals. Plus, I like some pretty obscure movies which are hard to get anywhere but Netflix.

I've heard fabulous things about Deadwood from our friends John & Liz. Sopranos sounded like damned-good drama, but I don't think it's a must-see life-will-be-forever-changed kind of show.

I've got to finish up Farscape. I've seen it all except the last half of the last season and the mini-series capstone. I've borrowed the first season from

haabda so I can rewatch them all in order and have it be fresh when I get to the few shows I haven't seen. However,

zordac and

alcamar say they want to watch them with me, but they'll never sit down consistantly enough to get pass the first six episodes. And I get chastened when I threaten to move on without them.

I can't think of anything that's particularly calling to me show-wise besides Carnivale. Any recommendations?

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	From: mandis13	Date: October 18th, 2006 11:24 pm (UTC)		(link)

Lets see... Deadwood is great; I think ya'd like it. Great characterizations, awesome setting, lots of cursing.

Penn and Teller's Bullshit, is also awesome. Highly reccommended.

Scrubs. Some of the funniest TV EVAR. EVAR EVAR EVAR.

House is one of the top 3 best shows I have ever seen. In my whole life. Well, at least since I remember shows; I might have seen something as a baby that was ABSOLUTELY AWESOME, but sadly, I can't remember it. Now I'm sad...

Rescue Me, with Dennis Leary, is NOT your standard drama, by any stretch. The characters are meaty, and the situations are the kind of things one can relate to. Almost won Leary an Emmy, for goodness sakes!

Finally, The Shield is another of my top 3. It is amazingly gritty, the characters are AWAZING and O so tragically flawed, and the plotlines are some really top drama.

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			Thread started by Ginger

	From: gigafive	Date: October 18th, 2006 06:41 am (UTC)		(link)

While TV shows on DVD are wonderful, they might actually contribute to the early death of a series. People who might have otherwise watched the show aren't, which results in lower ratings, which resultings in it being canceled. Just a thought.

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	From: frolicswllamas	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:12 pm (UTC)		(link)

Ooh, that's a pretty good point.

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	From: lost_angel	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:22 pm (UTC)		(link)

I've thought about that, but it doesn't apply to us in our case.

zordac has completely disconnected our tivo from reporting viewing statistics back through the tivo network and we don't participate in the Neilson rating program.

Over the years, people have realized that the Neilson ratings have been flawed because of bad sampling and changed behavior once people are selected for the study. It seems to me that Tivo ratings are more accurate, but I don't like having people know what I watch, even if it is anonymous. I'm not ashamed of any of my television shows (except perhaps home design shows :) but I don't figure that it's any of their business.

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			Comment by stephaneyney

	From: stephaneyney	Date: October 18th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)		(link)

Kirk and I watched Carnivale, and it rocked. We didn't, however, want to continue watching after we found out it had been cancelled, and a lot of the characters/plot developments were kind of left hanging. No true resolution.

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