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Stargate SG1 - Final Episode and Overall Series Comments
For those of you in my immediate group in Water Valley/Oxford (i.e. in my house every weekend watching this show with me), you are already painfully aware of my feelings about the show and are glad the show is finally is over just so that I'll stop complaining. Everyone else can read at their own risk.

For the record, I love this series. I loved the original movie. I have loved the television series for seven years now (I started in about two seasons late and caught up via haabda's DVDs and downloads. It is perhaps the only show (besides Battlestar Gallactica that I would give up my Friday nights for, well, since friends were coming over to watch the show with me anyway.

For a long time it had the perfect combination of lovable, dynamic good guys, usage of mythology that make history buffs cringe but remain addicted, approachable technology, complicated and simple story arcs, internal and external turmoil, entertaining banter, and the strength not to take itself too seriously.

I have been told that the story was intentionally left open so that they could come out with direct-to-DVD movies to finish up the story arc. I would have preferred it if they had finished off the story in the series (the execution of this plot-line has disappointed me, but that's another issue altogether). But all-in-all, I really enjoyed the final episode because of the implication the SGC and SG1 never end. Heroes can't stay off the battlefield if their home is in danger. They keep going until they die or they're so old they can't move.

What bothers me is that I started liking Altantis more than original Stargate: SG1 during the last two seasons. Atlantis a little flat sometimes, but the dialogue and the actors' chemistry finally made it work. I wondered at first if the SciFi Channel was intentionally sabotaging the quality of SG1 so that they could ween us off the show and onto Atlantis. I noticed a significant dip in SG1's s quality of writing (both dialogue and plot lines) about four years ago. And then more recently, the last two seasons have all-but-completely sucked. It got boring and flat, lost its irreverent humor, and beat us over the head with uninteresting bad guys, which in turn made the SG1 team uninteresting good guys.

Seriously, about half of this last full season, I was literally falling asleep in my chair about every other episode. I accept that as our heroes kept become more and more badass, the writers had to keep throwing tougher and tougher stuff at them. But it's not the "Oh, no, we're the SCARIEST bad guys around" that bothered me — my complaints are entirely about execution.

Here is how most of the shows seemed to progress:

Discovery of problem, very very dry exposition, resistance/conflict, now REPEAT the same exposition to other characters in a very "Sally, Dick and Jane" dialogue, intended solution creates more problems, more exposition, sudden-unrelated-and-uninteresting fix, end show.

Here is some sample dialogue

Carter: The [bad guys] are going to attack.
Daniel: We have to stop [bad guys].
Vala: (cue disinterested, rogueish sex-appeal) Look at me! I'm the funny, irreverent one!
Landry: Shut up, Vala. Carter, you had better figure out something to stop the [bad guys].
Mitchell: I know I'm not really Jack, but can't we just blow the [bad guys] up?

Here's some sample dialogue with an Ori, prior, or henchman

Henchman: You will never defeat the Ori.
Carter: Yes, we will.
Henchman: But the Ori are all-powerful. Fear us!
Mitchell: We're the good guys. We always win.
Henchman: No, you won't!
Carter: Yes, we will.

It was hard to look forward to this every week. There were a couple of shows that were fun and entertaining. The story arc about the Ori sneaking in the Ori-sai (sp?) into this galaxy was intriguing and led to some sincere empathy from me about Vala and her husband. And there were a few episodes that had some of the original charm and humor. But there were so few good episodes among so many terrible ones that I am honestly glad it's over.

I will look back on the show fondly and probably get suckered into watching the made-for-tv movie follow-ups because I have invested so much time in the show not to finish it.


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wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: June 26th, 2007 01:59 am (UTC) (link)
I kinda stopped watching when farscape invaded it. It was too much, even if I liked Farscape.

How did SG1 end?
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: June 26th, 2007 03:28 am (UTC) (link)


Back before mankind learned the speak, the ascended Ancients split into two factions — one with a Prime Directive and one that acted as gods and increased their power through the faith of their followers. This evil branch are called the Ori. The two groups of Ancients struggled and the result was the Ori leaving our galaxy for many millenia.

Modern day - SG1 finds an (A)ncient device that transports them (at least consciously) to Ori galaxy and stir up trouble. Ori decide they want their old galaxy back and build up power enough to kill the peaceful Ancients. They are prevent via understood unwritten Ancient law from directly entering and manipulating lesser species of our galaxy, so they impregnate Vala (Claudia Black) who returns to our galaxy and has a half-evil-ancient-Ori-half-human baby who grows up quickly and becomes the Ori ass-kicking-leader-of-doom (Morena Baccarin). Fighting commences.

A full season goes by. Final episode: the Asgard are dying beyond hope of overcoming their genetic deterioration via cloning (and we learn of a rule that they somehow can't ascend, oopsy, I love making up non-sensical rules for plot-devices on the very last episode) so they're committing mass suicide and giving all of their technology to the humans and installing it on their new super-flying-ship.

After installation, Ori ships attack, Asgard homeworls goes kablooey, and SG1 ship is now the sole storehouse of all of the Asgard knowledge. They now have the ability to kill a few previously-untouchable Ori ships, but there are too many foes, and SG1 can't escape via hyperspace because they are being tracked because of the signature of the new technology.

They transport most of the crew to the surface of a planet with a stargate, leaving only Daniel, Sam, Mitchell, Teal'c, Vala, and Landry. Just as an Ori ship is about to blow them up, Carter freezes time in a small bubble around them in which time passes much more slowly than outside the bubble. They do this via the new Asgard technology (see: sentient, high-grade replicators from three or four seasons ago). Once done, they figure out that they don't have enough time to actually escape and save the ship, so they are stuck living in the bubble or leaving the bubble and dying.

They spend 50 years on the ship, Daniel and Vala hook up, and finally Sam figures out a way of using the energy of the Ori blast to reverse time, disable the trackable signature, and escape via hyperspace. Teal'c stays behind in a mini time-bubble within a time-bubble, and executes several pre-written sub-routines, and they flee.

The show ends with the SG1 team in the gate room about to embark on a new mission. There is lots banter using cliches about the things they've learned. Stargate opens, SG1 walks up the ramp and into the stargate. Life goes on. The world still needs saving.

The end.

(wow that took a lot of typing).
wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: June 26th, 2007 03:40 am (UTC) (link)

And I have totally missed Morena on this show somehow, that must have happened right after I started loosing interest unfortunately.

So they spend what seems like 50 years in a bubble, then go back to work? Talk about job commitment...
zordac From: zordac Date: June 26th, 2007 04:03 am (UTC) (link)
Yeah but lost_angel forgot to mention the part about the Furlings. See they show up inside the bubble with Teal'c as an easter egg. It was great. I almost wet myself laughing.
alcamar From: alcamar Date: June 26th, 2007 06:47 am (UTC) (link)
Well, the energy blast to funnel energy into the system to save them, actually takes them back 50 years. Teal'c says he'll be the one to "stay old", because noone else would remember what happened otherwise. So new Teal'c is actually 50 years older than originally, but still a badass none the less. However, everyone else reverted back to their original age, and lost all the memories they had gained during that time frame.
wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: June 26th, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC) (link)
Oh, wacky sci-fi science! You amuse us so, and propel the plot no matter what.
haabda From: haabda Date: June 26th, 2007 05:20 am (UTC) (link)
I was disappointed in the final episode, especially after how wonderful the last few seasons have been. (Yes, Ginger and I differ greatly in opinion on that.) However, after watching it a second time, I was less disappointed. The Asgard giving them ALL their knowledge sets up some pretty nice tech for the movies. However, I wonder why the Asgard weapons worked so well against the Or'Ai ships. When the Or'Ai first arrived in this galaxy, the Asgard where there to help stop them and at that time their weapons didn't have any effect. I guess the Asgard figured out why and adjusted their weapons.

BTW, I really enjoyed the Atlantis finale.
alcamar From: alcamar Date: June 26th, 2007 06:50 am (UTC) (link)
I thought the final episode was nice. The episode itself was a little strange, but that was ok. The ending though, and leaving things open, even if there wasn't a movie, I am mostly ok with. Yes, I think they could have wrapped up the Ori encounters probably, but what next? The universe is saved yet again, so there's no other big bad guys out there? I think this way, for me at least, they just go about their every day jobs, going out to save the world, fight in the name of good, all that Hero stuff. Not even considering a movie or 3 in the future, I think it ended on a good note.
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: June 26th, 2007 08:10 am (UTC) (link)
I enjoyed the Atlantis season finale, too.

Yep, I think you're right. The Asgard did get their asses handed to them in previous skirmishes with the Or'ai. ::sigh:: Plot holes.
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