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Flickr Account; Social Networking Hierarchy
Some of you may have already figured this one out, but I just created a Flickr account (after over a year of Liz asking me to do so).

I am ivy_windchaser. Add as you wish.

Now I am presented with another dilemma. Many people have prodded me to get a myspace or facebook account. The only reason I would do so would be to catch up with old acquaintances, people who I would usually have trouble being myself around. I would no doubt present a heavily-filtered and edited version of myself. Most people that I interact with on a regular basis know the real me, and I can easily speak to them in person, email, chat, phone, or on livejournal.

As with most venues, people who inhabit one or two social networks consider theirs to be the best and scorn all others. As with social castes, yacht clubs, geeks, and fetishists, social networkers certainly have their own hierarchy.

What order would you put the social networks in and what values do you base this pyramid on?


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alcamar From: alcamar Date: May 19th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC) (link)
Well, really depends on what you're after with social networks. Myspace has the population, so "whoring" yourself out for friends and such works out well in that case.
Facebook has a decent interface, the add application aspect is nice. Basically you can code some sorta whatever to interface with your profile. Course, this definitely opens things up, who knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes of that.... There's a large number, but some weird ones include games(scrabble knockoff, oregon trail, some Zombie/Vampire/etc fight that doesn't do anything deal, etc), plus probably some other ones that I hadn't even touched on.

Both of those like the "main page" interface, where everything you do is one click away, all from the "home" page. They have started to post what you're friends are up to there as well, posted pictures, made a "blog" entry, whatever. Myspace definitely has the lion's share, but I think unless you've got specific people that only really know or choose to use myspace, blah. Facebook, I've been fairly ok with, but I can definitely see it spreading out, getting worse. Thus far it's been fairly limited, few ppl from the Oxford crew and such that I've added, so it's not to bad.

Basically, I'm on both of them. But at the same time, any of my major communication(blog entries, pictures, etc) all happen here. I don't trust them that much, I don't utilize them that much, etc.

As far as other social networks though, other than the LJ knockoff types, I donno, as I've not really used them.

I suggest if you're inclined to do it, setting up myspace/facebook, put in some basic info, profile bits, etc., and then basically letting it linger to nothing. As I said, myspace I use for communicating with my family mostly. My brother and both my sisters are on there, and now apparently my mom's on there as well(to monitor my sisters). If you don't really wanna be on there, then I say heck with it, don't let ppl push the matter. It's definitely not worth much trouble on that end.
asperityq From: asperityq Date: May 19th, 2008 03:03 pm (UTC) (link)
MySpace is a total hole, but I did get in touch with some old friends from long ago that I'd wanted to hear from again. So that's useful. Lots of people use the thing in spite of the utterly craptacular code the thing spits out. And the aesthetics of the place in general are cringeworthy. It's sort of like time-traveling back to 1998 or so, when the blink tag was still around, but adding video and sound (which usually clash with each other.) And most friend requests you'll get will be porn spam. Because you clearly don't have enough of that in your life already, eh?

Facebook's handy if you've got a specific network you want to be in touch with (schools, mostly.) Much less useful otherwise. It has the bonus of being much less fugly than MySpace, so it doesn't damage your teeth so much to use (from the grinding, dontchaknow.)

None of the other ones (Friendster, Orkut, etc.) are very useful these days for folks in the US; they've largely been adopted by users from elsewhere, I think. Interfaces for them are fine, but again, not really worth it.
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: May 19th, 2008 10:07 pm (UTC) (link)
You and wyldkyss below mentioned the convenience of storing and managing separate networks within facebook. That, at the very least, seems cool.

I don't particularly want to join any of these, but there are some people who only use one or two (like me with livejournal). Even if myspace wasn't the asshole of the internet, I probably wouldn't take the time to check it unless it had a system in place to ping the hell out of me when someone adds me, which would mostly be porn, as you said.

Thank you for also mentioning Friendster and Orkut, because I'd forgotten about both. I won't be joining them but at now I know they exist. Some of my website clients have asked about marketing on social networks, so it's good for me to have a list of recommendations.
wyldkyss From: wyldkyss Date: May 19th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC) (link)
Everyone has a myspace, but the interface is horrible.

Now that facebook is open to the public, nearly everyone is on there too (my mom has an account even!) Also facebook can let you sort people by network (Ole Miss? How about Oxford as a whole? etc) which is pretty convenient.
sxyblkmn From: sxyblkmn Date: May 19th, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC) (link)
hmm, for me i rank lj and flickr at the top of my social network. those are the two i check most often and on a regular basis

now that i've download a twitter desktop client, twitter is starting to quickly work it's way to the top of that list too

myspace and facebook come next and, like most people, i have those because i have friends/family that only use those as their social network and i want to keep in touch with them

i used to be really into deviantart but these days i don't even check it anymore. between flickr and my uber photoblog i don't even need deviantart anymore

(and muxtape is on my list of sites i'm really starting to dig too)

everything else, i use my google reader to keep up to date with :)
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: May 19th, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC) (link)
What do you find attractive about muxtape? I assume it's an audio site?
From: spiderknight Date: May 19th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC) (link)
Facebook you would use a bit, Myspace is damn near useless. Besides, how many things do we really need to check in a day?
princessmargo From: princessmargo Date: May 19th, 2008 07:22 pm (UTC) (link)
I have both, and use Facebook much much more. MySpace was cool at first b/c I got in touch with about 20 people from high school and college that I haven't talked to in years. But then... after about one or two "How ARE you?" messages, I realized that I didn't really want to talk to them after all.

Facebook does more: applications, etc. It's a better "social networking" site to my mind. BUT, you gotta remember that it never forgets; you can never completely delete your profile or any of the info you ever told it. That's a little creepy.

If I had it to do over, I would skip MySpace and do Facebook. But, then again, if you're not super-into the goofy "So what are you doing now??" aspect, they are non-essential.

But if you do a profile on either one, I'd like to be your friend :>
lost_angel From: lost_angel Date: May 19th, 2008 10:01 pm (UTC) (link)
But then... after about one or two "How ARE you?" messages, I realized that I didn't really want to talk to them after all.

That's what I figure. I genuinely am curious about some old friends I no longer see and slightly curious about old people I disliked. :) But I expect that the first bit of interaction with old friends will be nice, but I'll be frustrated by the diminishing emotional returns of irregular chat. Catching up becomes tedious when not in person. Learning about the lives of people I disliked will probably just be a bad experience altogether, revisiting unhappy memories. So I don't think I should put myself through it despite the temptation to know how they're doing.

But if you do a profile on either one, I'd like to be your friend :>

Of course! If I set up a profile anywhere else, I'll cross post it here to make sure y'all are on both.
jopasm From: jopasm Date: May 20th, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC) (link)
Which one do you have more friends on?

I have both LJ and Myspace accounts. I guess I'm too old to be enamored of the whole "I have 40 billion myspace friends phenomena", so I have a limited # of friends on each. My reasons for having them:

Facebook - had it first, other people at school used it, we used the group feature to coordinate a class project. I've kept it around b/c I keep up with a few peripheral friends from Ole Miss through it, and keep tabs on some younger relatives who have accounts. It's my school network site.

Myspace - signed up with it b/c it was the unofficial shovel bum network (field archaeologists). Most of my friends from work on on their, a few friends from school and such. Myspace has a better artist and movie interface - I've got a few bands friended and it's nice to get updates on where they're performing and the like. It's my real life/work network site.

These days I probably use Facebook the most, b/c most of my cohort use it. I check LJ and Myspace once a week or so. Nice to have to stay in touch w/ distant folk, but no longer the center of my social life. ;)

I think I have a friendster account, but since only one person I know is on it I never log on. Oh, deviant-art is fun, at one point I thought about trying to sell some photos through there, but I've never considered it as much a social network as a common interest site.

So, there you go. The sites I use and why I use them.
frolicswllamas From: frolicswllamas Date: May 22nd, 2008 01:19 am (UTC) (link)
The one thing for which Myspace is useful: Some indie, small, or otherwise little-known bands (and certainly well-known ones, as well) post mp3s of their music on myspace, even if they don't have a "real" website or alternative way to market their music.
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